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    What's New in Logix, AF 2016


    One of the Automation Fair Technical Sessions I attended this morning was "What's New in Logix," and below I'll recap what I found most interesting about this session



    First up was a slide reminding us that in the past year Rockwell had released the 5380, 5370S, and L19:

    Next up was another reminder, this...

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    Nice! I'm super curious about the 5480 mixed PLC/PC. That could be a really awesome all in one solution.
    Last edited by Ike; 11-15-2016 at 02:49 PM.

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    Ike,

    Yeah, after hearing how fast it was I also became very interested!

    But I expect the price might be quite high ;-)

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    Messaging Interface

    It will be interesting to see the 5480 PC interface and whether it will be cost effective. We currently use a small Linux embedded computer as a data acquisition server that is mounted on a DIN rail in the control box. This feature is inexpensive, but if the 5480 isn't priced too high, perhaps this can replace the need of an extra component.

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    @dadadadeo which manufacturer do you use for your small din rail mount PC? (just curios as I've looked a quite a few myself)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Tierney View Post
    @dadadadeo which manufacturer do you use for your small din rail mount PC? (just curios as I've looked a quite a few myself)
    The MOXA 8131has been a very solid device for us since it came out a couple of years ago. It has a serial connection and dual Ethernet ports. We use it for capturing prints from processors that either use serial or socket messaging. These cycle reports are then stored as PDF files using Libharu. We also use it as a web server (apache2) and print server (CUPS).

    http://www.moxa.com/product/UC-8100.htm

    The Raspberry Pi is a very nice and very inexpensive device but the MOXA 8100 series is perfect for customers that require industrial specifications.

    http://raspberrypi.org

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    @dadadadeo Thanks for the link and info!
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    ControlLogix 5480 - Where have I seen this before?

    The past repeats itself. Anyone remember Pyramid Integrator? PLC-5 and DEC VAX computer in one admittedly bulky package. I gather there was uptake by some companies, but not enough to really keep it alive.

    The whole concept is pretty niche: You might save a little space and power, but there are several issues with which to contend:
    If I have separate boxes, I can upgrade one without touching the other.
    Industrial PCs will always improve faster than Rockwell will improve PC part of 5480.
    Will PC-PLC link across backplane outperform 100Mbps Ethernet, which is how you currently connect a PC to a ControlLogix?
    How much $$$$ will Rockwell want for this "optimized solution" versus what it currently costs using ControlLogix and IPC?

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    Hey @Rich Wargo, great to hear from you! Hope all is well :-)

    And yes - I do remember the PI and actually have a rack and chassis on the shelf here :-D

    So yeah, I have to agree it does seem pretty niche, and going with an external PC will likely always be cheaper (although we have no prices yet)

    However I wasn't expecting part of the deal to be the 5480 ran 40x faster! That's a huge speed bump.

    I'm also of the understanding that the OS / 5480 integration is lighting fast, and allows for calling of PC code directly from 5480.

    But again, I'm with you as I'm not seeing a ton of applications, but that is all dependant on the price of the 5480...

    Sincerely,

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